Merge The Old Lock, 2 ??? same film

[dleedlee]

Can Deng You Ling San Geng Tian / ??????? (1976)
Can Deng You Hun San Geng Tian / ??????? (1977)
alias ??????? seems to be the correct/most common name

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng 1976 merge
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng 1977 merge
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng The Old Lock ( ?? original name) change primary big5 name

http://nccur.lib.nccu.edu.tw/bitstream/ ... 400601.pdf pg. 97 (Master's Thesis on horror films of Yao Pengfan. Might be handy for future reference.

????????????? ???????????????
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_c6558cc00102waj2.html
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8F%A4 ... C%E8%AA%9E

INOO

[yukabacera]

Actually, this is not fully correct. Yes, the first two are definitely duplicates. But the original title of that movie is actually 'The Tale of Old House' (1979), Chinese title ???? and not the same movie as 'The Old House' (1977). 'The Old Lock,' too, is a completely different film.

[calros]

Sorry, my fault.

[dleedlee]

Actually, this is not fully correct. Yes, the first two are definitely duplicates. But the original title of that movie is actually 'The Tale of Old House' (1979), Chinese title ???? and not the same movie as 'The Old House' (1977). 'The Old Lock,' too, is a completely different film.

I'm not clear on what you're saying. I'm saying that these 3 films are they same and should be merged.
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

There's another entry in our db called Old Lock/????, that is actually ?? s/b a 1979 release;
if so, let's keep for a separate post.

[yukabacera]

This is what I mean:

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
These should be merged. I agree that they are duplicates.

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
This one should not be merged. It is a completely different movie unrelated to the first two.

As for this one: http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng , I believe the title 'Old Lock' has been applied to it by mistake. The regular English title of that one is 'Horror Inn'.

[dleedlee]

This is what I mean:

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
These should be merged. I agree that they are duplicates.

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
This one should not be merged. It is a completely different movie unrelated to the first two.

But why do you say that? Because my OP has two links that seem to say otherwise. Maybe I'm mis-translating ?
Did you look at them?
My details, captured and posted here.


http://hkmdb.com/db/images/movies/13733 ... 77-2-b.jpg
http://hkmdb.com/db/images/movies/13733 ... 77-3-b.jpg
http://hkmdb.com/db/images/movies/13733 ... 77-4-b.jpg

[yukabacera]

Yes, I know what all those sources say. It's very confusing - I don't blame you.

At some point in the past, in Taiwan or HK, there was a VHS release of 'The Old Lock' (??) that was retitled to ???????. This title was published in a magazine too - it might have been a pre-production or reissue title.
However, a later Mainland release on VCD and VHS that had the same title ??????? was actually a different movie: ???? ('The Tale of Old House')
I have both movies. I think the confusion may have arisen from the fact that 'The Old Lock' was also released with the alternate title ???? (note the difference.)
So, the conclusion is that there is no one movie called ??????? - it was an alternate title used for two different movies at different times.

To make matters more confusing, we already have credits and portraits from 'The Tale of Old House' in the database, but they are assigned to the wrong movie: http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?id=13741

[dleedlee]

Okay, that's what I was looking for. I figured the citations I relied on were trustworthy since they were TW sourced. I vaguely remember coming across the pre-production reference earlier but it didn't register with me.