Merge: Chiu Ming-Hsian with Chiu Ying-Hong

[Michael Kistner]

Looks for me like the same person (or they are brothers):

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/images.mhtml ... ay_set=eng

and

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/images.mhtml ... ay_set=eng


Updated also the cast of Ying Xiong Wu Dan (1989) with Chiu Ming-Hsian in the credits.

[calros]

According to this site,

https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E9%82%B1% ... 1%E6%B4%AA

Chiu Ying-Hong debuted in TV as an stuntman in 1976, but he did not appear in movies until 1985.

(Chiu Ming-Hsian debuted in films in 1982)

[Michael Kistner]

Thanks for the information.

It is still possible that they are similiar looking brothers.

In Ying Xiong Wu Dan (1989) with Chiu Ming-Hsian in the credits it looks with the hairstyle very much like Chiu Ying-Hong, but sadly no close ups.

[Teddy Wong]

Baidu Baike is same as Wikipedia - edited by volunteers, so the data may be not 100% accurate.
Especially the data about Taiwanese movies and TV-series.

I also think that they are the same person.
Maybe the name "Chiu Ming-Hsian" is a different person's name, and the ID is wrong, but I think the guy on the images tagged to Chiu Ming-Hsian is Chiu Ying-Hong.
Considering, that in "A Girl Rogue" and in "Five Fighters from Shaolin" he has leading roles, probably Chiu Ming-Hsian's ID is also right.

Taiwan is not a big country, so I doubt there will be too different martial arts actors, who look THAT SIMILAR and work at about the same time.
Also, they have the same family name.
Also, if not "Ying Xiong Wu Dan" than Chiu Ying-Hong's credits start when Chiu Ming-Hsian's end, so maybe in between he changed his name.

They could be brothers, but still sounds strange that Chiu Ying-Hong entered the industry in 1976, and for 9(!) years didn't appear in movies. The small but super prolific industry, where not only stuntmen, but also producers, production managers, gaffers, makeup artists and other crew members appear as actors.
I think that the author of Baidu Baike page just didn't know, that Chiu Ying-Hong used a different name.

[Teddy Wong]

I just checked again what's written in Baidu.

Chiu Ying-Hong debuted in TV as an stuntman in 1976, but he did not appear in movies until 1985.
(Chiu Ming-Hsian debuted in films in 1982)

Actually, it says that:
"In 1976 he entered Movie and TV industry as a stuntman."
"In 1985 he started to serve as martial arts director along with acting"

So what happened to him in 1985 is that he also became a martial arts director, and was combining this job with actor's job.
But it doesn't say if he did or did not appear in movies as an actor before 1985

[Michael Kistner]

Thanks for you input.

Unfortunately I have not more proof.

The Chiu Ming-Hsian ID should be correct, I also checked VILLAGE BROTHER (no cast page image, added role name. I have only the "ninja edit") and CRISIS and it`s the same actor as in FIVE FIGHTERS and GIRL ROGUE. He was a good acrobat at that time, doing acrobatics in all 4 movies.

One of the first jobs credited for Chiu Ying-Hong are the LUCKY SEVEN movies directed by the same director like GIRL ROGUE and VILLAGE BROTHER with Chiu Ming-Hsian - no proof, but a hint.

[calros]

I think it is very strange that an actor who plays a leading role in 1988 under the name of Chiu Ying-Hong, the following year used his old name again to make another film.

I would wait a while to see if more images from other movies of him appear.

[Michael Kistner]

Added one image of CRISIS and one of FRIENDLY SHOCK:

http://hkmdb.com/db/images_byuser.mhtml ... %20Kistner

[calros]

The shape of the top of the ears is different. In Ming-Hsian it is round, and in Ying-Hong it ends in a peak.

[Michael Kistner]

Added 2 more images:

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/image_detail ... ay_set=eng

and

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/image_detail ... ay_set=eng

[Teddy Wong]

The shape of the top of the ears is different. In Ming-Hsian it is round, and in Ying-Hong it ends in a peak.

When you're a stuntman and a martial arts actor, you can easily damage or deform your ears
But if you want to compare ears, check that the shots are not flipped, otherwise you'll compare different ears.

[calros]

Still not convinced. I found ???? (the last movie of Chiu Ming-Hsian) is in YouTube. If you say the minute he appears, I will check if he is similar to "Gunman from Nowhere".

[Michael Kistner]

Still not convinced. I found ???? (the last movie of Chiu Ming-Hsian) is in YouTube. If you say the minute he appears, I will check if he is similar to "Gunman from Nowhere".

He appears around the 35 minute on the street as angry boyfriend or pimp of Hsiao Hung-Mei.

[calros]

Still not convinced. But you can merge them if you wish-

[Michael Kistner]

I merge the names soon.
I asked also other fans and that is as example what Toby Russell wrote:

I`m pretty sure he is the same guy

[Michael Kistner]

merged:

???
Chiu Ying-Hong ?
Aliases: Chiou Ing-Horng, Cho Ying-Hung, Cho Ying-Hun, Siu Yau, Chiu Yin-Horng, Yau Ying-Hung, Chiu Ying-Hung, Ego Chiu
Born: 1962

Filmography (1986-2001)

Action Director (20 films)
Lucky Seven (1986)
Lucky Seven 2 (1989)
The 3-D Army (1989)
New Seven Dragon Ball (1991)
Heroic Brothers (1991)
Passionate Dream (1992)
The Vengeance of Six Dragon (1992)
Lady Killer (1) (1992)
Stoneman (1992)
Desperate Duo (1992)
Kongfu Kids (1992)
Drug Tiger (1993)
Magic Mod (1993)
Wonderful Killer (1993)
G. Y. Sir (1997)
Temptress of a Thousand Face (1998)
Judicial Emissary (1998)
Thunder Cops (1999)
Final Judgement (1999)
Hector (2000)
Director (1 film)
Tricky Guys (2000)
Actor (21 films)
Mogui Zhanshi (1987)
Gunman from Nowhere (1988)
Friendly Shock (1988)
Lucky Seven 2 (1989)
Summer Holiday 1989 (1989) ... [Uncredited]
New Seven Dragon Ball (1991) ... Jen Jen's father
Heroic Brothers (1991)
Passionate Dream (1992) ... Chiu/Yau
The Vengeance of Six Dragon (1992) ... 2nd Brother Lo I-Hau
Lady Killer (1) (1992)
Queen of Gambler (1992)
Life Is a Bet (1992)
Desperate Duo (1992)
Kongfu Kids (1992)
Drug Tiger (1993) ... Hsu Chien-Ban
Tattoo Girl (1993)
Yan Gui Zai Ni Zuo You (1997)
Temptress of a Thousand Face (1998)
Judicial Emissary (1998)
Thunder Cops (1999)
Final Judgement (1999)
Writer (5 films)
Lucky Seven 2 (1989)
Judicial Emissary (1998)
Thunder Cops (1999)
Accusation of the Wall (2000)
Crying Sky (2001)

Biography

Also in

TWO COPS 3 (1997)(South Korea)(as Taiwanese gangster)

and

???
Chiu Ming-Hsian ?
Aliases: Qiu Ming-Xian, Yau Ming-Yin, Chiu Ming-Hsien

Filmography (1982-1989)

Actor (7 films)
Matching Escort (1982)
Crisis (1983)
The Village Brother (1983) ... Villager killed in flashback
A Girl Rogue (1984)
Five Fighters from Shaolin (1985) ... 1st Brother
Ninja Operation: Knight and Warrior (1986) ... [A GIRL ROGUE footage]
Ying Xiong Wu Dan (1989)

Result:

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng