DB Title Update: THE RAPE (2001) (aka Cut Off The Throat?)

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DB Title Update: THE RAPE (2001) (aka Cut Off The Throat?)

Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:47 pm

This one's in the DB as CUT OFF THE THROAT, but I can only find one other source claiming that as the film's title, and that's Buyoyo. The sleeve has no English text, so I suspect they just made it up based on the plot description and/or the images on the package, and someone repeated it here.

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

This is a Taiwan production, but MIGHT be a HK-Taiwan co-production, as it's filmed in both locales (though mainly Taipei). Perhaps the credits will shed some light, not sure.

On screen title is THE RAPE (despite no rapes occurring in the film), which I've added as an alias for now, but I believe the titles should be switched. CUT OFF THE THROAT can remain an alias since is DOES exist under that title and someone might just buy it some day and come here looking for it under that name, and since we've got the credits below, we'll now be the best source for info on it :lol: :

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Gotta love those paste-on headlines! :D

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I'll give you one guess what the murder weapon is in this film. . .

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Postby j.crawford » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:59 pm

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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:37 pm

Good memory! So I assume the title came from an online retailer listing? This is the same VCD from which I took the credits above, and the title definitely isn't CUT OFF THE THROAT, so I gotta wonder if anyone besides myself actually killed 90 precious minutes watching the thing! :lol:



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Postby Teddy Wong » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:18 am

so I gotta wonder if anyone besides myself actually killed 90 precious minutes watching the thing!

You should know at least one more person :wink:

I agree with Brian about the titles.
Some time ago I wanted to ask, but always forgot, about checking on-screen titles of the movies, because sometimes main title listed in DB is not the same, or not full (like On parole 2), or the on-screen title is listed as an alias, but in my opinion it should be the main title.
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Postby j.crawford » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:19 pm

:shock:
Good memory!


Not really. This movie is one from my collection that I bought in 2001 at my favorite vcd shop on the Bowery in Manhattan. Simon and Strawberry on the package was good enough for me. After I watched it, I guess I thought it was so bad that it knocked the memory of the opening title sequence out of my head.

So I assume the title came from an online retailer listing?
This is a question for Calros.

In 2005, I got a scanner and started adding covers from my collection to the DB. The movie wasn't here. I never watched the disc then, though I posted my scans looking for help with the english title.

This is the same VCD from which I took the credits above, and the title definitely isn't CUT OFF THE THROAT


:roll: I dug it out and watched the movie again. Of course, you are right. I'm going to update the big5 title and change the english title.
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:02 pm

Teddy Wong wrote:. . .sometimes main title listed in DB is not the same, or not full (like On parole 2), or the on-screen title is listed as an alias, but in my opinion it should be the main title.


I've found a couple of these on occasion as well. I'll usually mention them here, especially if they need a credit update and I can take some screenshots, so someone can make the switch. I suspect there are more... :D

This movie is one from my collection that I bought in 2001 at my favorite vcd shop on the Bowery in Manhattan. Simon and Strawberry on the package was good enough for me. After I watched it, I guess I thought it was so bad that it knocked the memory of the opening title sequence out of my head.


Gotta love movies where "name" stars like Simon and Strawberry drop by in their street clothes for a few scenes and get nearly top billing! I thought the Hong Kong "police station" was amusing: looked like a barely-furnished apartment with 2 miniature Chinese flags sitting on a desk! Such authenticity! :lol:

:roll: I dug it out and watched the movie again. Of course, you are right. I'm going to update the big5 title and change the english title.


Hopefully you didn't watch the whole thing again. That's more suffering than any human should be forced to tolerate! :lol:
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Postby Bearserk » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:42 pm

Oh, now you two are making me curious, maybe I should put it on my next order :lol:
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:34 pm

Bearserk wrote:Oh, now you two are making me curious, maybe I should put it on my next order :lol:



:lol:

You have the ability to appreciate movies like this on a "so-bad-it's-moderately-entertaining" level, so I'd imagine you'd get a few laughs out of it! I noticed the director has a long history as a bit player in martial arts films from the early 70's to the mid 80's, but never seems to have risen above that. This movie feels like a make-work project for him, and it's hardly surprising he hasn't directed anything since. It's played pretty straight in spite of a ludicrous script, which generates a few giggles. As you can see by the credits above, the weapon of choice is a hobby knife the killer uses to cut the throats of an assortment of interchangeable girls with no backstories. To confound the viewer, the filmmakers make sure that EVERY non-cop character in the subplots brandishes a hobby knife in a crazy, threatening manner at some point during the film. You'd think they were a new fad in Taiwan or something. If you can get it cheap...
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Postby j.crawford » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:11 pm

Hopefully you didn't watch the whole thing again.


:lol: Yes, I did. Honestly.


looked like a barely-furnished apartment with 2 miniature Chinese flags sitting on a desk!
:roll: This symbol of co-operation always makes me cringe.

I noticed the director has a long history as a bit player in martial arts films from the early 70's to the mid 80's, but never seems to have risen above that. This movie feels like a make-work project for him, and it's hardly surprising he hasn't directed anything since.


There were so many movies being made in '99-'00 that almost anyone could direct! This actually seems like 2 movies that they spliced together. You can really see the difference between the work of the HK crew and the Taiwan/Taipei crew. I guess my favorite scene in this is the "meanwhile back in Hong Kong" sequence which has Strawberry walking around wearing an over-sized flannel shirt.

If you can get it cheap...


Free would be best. :D

Added prod. company, production mgr., writer, planner, and 4 actors.
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Postby Bearserk » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:15 pm

Haha :lol:

Now I just have to have it :D
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:57 pm

j.crawford wrote:There were so many movies being made in '99-'00 that almost anyone could direct! This actually seems like 2 movies that they spliced together. You can really see the difference between the work of the HK crew and the Taiwan/Taipei crew. I guess my favorite scene in this is the "meanwhile back in Hong Kong" sequence which has Strawberry walking around wearing an over-sized flannel shirt.


So true about the number of films from this period. Surprisingly enough, there's was a lot of quality stuff that fell beneath the radar (or tastes) of most of the experts both here and elsewhere (if the review sites are anything to go on). The problem is you have to dig to find them, and stuff like this inevitably gets in the way! :lol: But in the long run, it's so worth it to find the gems.

My favourite scenes are pretty much any involving the killer, who wears a gigantic blue raincoat with a big yellow stripe that makes them look like a Swedish flag! At least two of the kills take place in daylight, and you'd think such an outfit would draw more attention! :lol: Gotta love those Strawberry scenes, though. Only in Hong Kong cinema do you find so many scenes like that, where someone just walks contemplatively along a busy streetscape while the filmmakers are probably hiding in a van across the way so they don't have to get permits, etc. In a city like Hong Kong, anywhere you point a camera you get free production value and a whole BUNCH of extras who have no idea they're being immortalized on film. :D
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Postby calros » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:00 pm

very valuable info, added 1 prod., 1 prod. man., plan., 1 phot., assist. dir., ed., costumes, makeup, props, gaffer, 3 actors and 3 aliases.
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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:05 pm

Thanks!

Just noticed this actor Yu Jye:
http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
appears to be in the opening credits as well.


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Postby calros » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:23 am

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Postby j.crawford » Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:46 pm

:!:
Just noticed this actor Yu Jye:
http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
appears to be in the opening credits as well.


Based on this image I think we have an ID. This is the drunken husband in The Rape, I think.



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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:38 am

Could be. I won't be able to take a comparison shot from THE RAPE for a few days, but when I can I'll post it so we can see. I do notice at least one actor, Yu Jye, appears in both cast lists for THE RAPE and GUARD SOLDIER. :)



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Postby Brian Thibodeau » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:40 am

j.crawford wrote:Based on this image I think we have an ID. This is the drunken husband in The Rape, I think.


Not so sure that's a match after all. Just noticed (finally!) that the drunken husband already has two shots in the DB entry for this film, and those don't appear to be the same guy. Here's a bigger shot of him—looking decidely less drunken—for confirmation.

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Postby j.crawford » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:42 am

Just noticed (finally!) that the drunken husband already has two shots in the DB entry for this film, and those don't appear to be the same guy.


Yes, I added those 2 portraits about a week ago.

No match.

Sorry, I forgot to post here. Could've saved you the time.
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