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DB Title Addition: EXFERNAL AFFAIRS (2001?) Credits, Pix

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:26 pm
by Brian Thibodeau
Another $2 bargain bin find. The title card on this is an obvious insert, meant to cash in on INFERNAL AFFAIRS, even though "EXFERNAL" is not a real word.

I'm guessing this is from 2001 or 2002, as Lily Chung was in a few Phillip Ko Fei movies at that time, although the whole production style, as well as the dodgy look of the film stock, makes this look like it was shot about 10 years earlier. I think the only real identifiers, for me at least, were the small size of the cel phones and the style of the sunglasses that everybody seems to wear at some point!

Have fun...

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OPENING CREDITS (no closing credits on this film)

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This is the hero of the movie, but I'm not sure if this is Gilbert Lam Wai-san, who is credited on the front of the sleeve, as the DB has no pictures in his entry. If this ISN'T Gilbert Lam, then this guy...

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...might be, because he IS pictured on the sleeve, although his role is tiny. Need some help here!

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Lily Chung

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????? (same as above)

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Lily Chung (WHY is this woman not in better movies?!?!?)

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????? (same as above)

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Philip Ko Fei

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Xing Yu (talk about a face made for the movies!)

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Xing Yu, again. (one of Phillip Ko's gang)

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???? (one of Phillip Ko's gang)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:53 pm
by calros
very valuable info! added movie, dir., prod., prod. co., action dir., phot., 5 actors, 19 images and posterized!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:09 am
by Brian Thibodeau
Is it possible that Lam Wai-sun, who received his own DB entry for this film only,

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

and Gilbert Lam Wai-san (as mentioned above)

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

are the same person?

Their Chinese names are identical.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:42 am
by Brian Thibodeau
Also, I'm wondering if anybody might know if this guy...

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is Siu Sei. I see he's also the action choreographer on this, and he's definitely a key player in all the fighting at the film's conclusion.

Just wondering...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:49 pm
by Fan
Image He is 林韋辰 (Gilbert Lam)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:57 pm
by Brian Thibodeau
That's what I figured! Thanks, Fan!

Of course, that means the guy who actually stars in this movie goes uncredited, as far as I can tell. Which is too bad, as he's a decent actor and I don't think I've seen him in many other movies. Gilbert Lam's in this for all of three minutes and gets top billing! :?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:35 pm
by Fan
Brian Thibodeau wrote:Of course, that means the guy who actually stars in this movie goes uncredited, as far as I can tell. Which is too bad, as he's a decent actor and I don't think I've seen him in many other movies. Gilbert Lam's in this for all of three minutes and gets top billing! :?


Don't get it. The capture here says he and Lily Chung are leading roles and he's in it for only 3 mins?

He's mostly seen on TV so many people here in HK should able to tell his name.

BTW, do you aware that they write Lily Chung's Chinese name differently on the cover (淑慧) and in the film (淑慧)?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:18 pm
by Brian Thibodeau
Don't get it. The capture here says he and Lily Chung are leading roles and he's in it for only 3 mins?


This wouldn't be the first time I've seen something like this ;). I think it might just be the habit of cheap VCD companies releasing cheap movies like this one. Sometimes the lead actor isn't as well known as the "name" actor hired for a few minutes of screentime (like Gilbert Lam, in this case), so the "name" actor gets a credit, while the star of the show does not. I'm fairly certain that Phillip Ko didn't shoot this with the title EXFERNAL AFFAIRS either, so I guess it's no surprise that the VCD company just threw it out there with only the most recognizable faces given credit.

In fact, Lily Chung's part in this is actually smaller than the other girl, who appears throughout the movie. Both of them get to fight at the end (well, flail their arms at the bad guys and kick them in the groin, actually)

So basically the lead actor and actress are unknown entities at the moment! :shock:

BTW, do you aware that they write Lily Chung's Chinese name differently on the cover (???) and in the film (???)?


Didn't catch that! But again, I'm not too surprised given the "messy" nature of this whole release. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:19 pm
by calros
Brian Thibodeau wrote:So basically the lead actor and actress are unknown entities at the moment! :shock:

Maybe they appear in the end credits and these credits have been cut.

Fixed "main" actors.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:39 pm
by Brian Thibodeau
Maybe they appear in the end credits and these credits have been cut.


That wouldn't surprise me. I don't recall this film even having end credits. Just a "The End" title and nothing else. I'll double check later, just to be safe, but this is something I've noticed in quite a few of these low-budget flicks: no end credits! Either that, or the VCD makers simply chop them off to save space!