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The Big Heat (1988): minor additions/corrections

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:34 am
by Mike Thomason
Per Johnnie To/Andrew Kam/Tsui Hark's THE BIG HEAT...

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

I watched this one this afternoon, as I was bored and wanted to see if there were any errors herein that we might be able to correct (it turns out that Aaron Kwok* doesn't appear in the film). Anyways, I'm looking at the credits when it starts and I think to myself "Gee, there seems to be one less English credit there on the main cast than there are Chinese characters"...

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And wouldn't you know it? I was right! It was my old friend Peter Lai, from FINALE IN BLOOD, as district officer Ng going unnoticed to the English speaking saps! Peter felt pretty smug about that...

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But not half as smug as film director and sometimes actor Kirk Wong Chi Keung, who recieved no billing at all! You can almost see the disgust in Kirk's eyes that his friends at the HKMDB didn't use their eagle-eyes to spot him for accreditation (meant in fun, not a derogatory manner)...while they creditted Aaron Kwok as cameoing, when he wasn't even in the film! Kirk's gonna have a word to some of his underworld pals to sort that one out...

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On a slightly more serious note, and since I have to rely on you guys since my fiancee is away at her kampung and I can't call on her to translate for me, here's something for you: the music credits for the film! I am suspecting that David Wu was actually the music editor, and not the composer ala Lowell Lo and Lo Tai Yau? It sure doesn't look like a film score credit to me...;)

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Adios banditos,
Michael :P

* with thanks to Magic Wong for eagle-eyeing Gordon Chan for me! 8)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:08 am
by Magic Wong
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on the right: Gordon Chan Ka Seung (extra at the airport)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:13 am
by Mike Thomason
Good Lord! You're right (and I am proven wrong again, or still...:P), I must've blinked and missed him! Mind you, I wasn't really looking for him hard (like I was for Aaron) and thereby, being an extra at the airport, it was pretty easy to miss him.

While you're at it...show me Aaron Kwok (if you know where he is), I wanna see him! :) (It's almost like a game of Where's Wally sometimes, hey?) :D

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:33 pm
by Magic Wong
Aaron Kwok...i've never seen him in THE BIG HEAT.

added: Kirk Wong, Peter Lai

If nobody stops me in 14 days I will remove Aaron Kwok.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:49 pm
by STSH
White Dragon wrote:Good Lord! You're right (and I am proven wrong again, or still...:P), I must've blinked and missed him! Mind you, I wasn't really looking for him hard (like I was for Aaron) and thereby, being an extra at the airport, it was pretty easy to miss him.

While you're at it...show me Aaron Kwok, I wanna see him! :)


I was checking back through this forum yesterday, and I noticed that one of my very first postings (Dec 1999) was about this very same subject. Sure took you a while, guys, but finally caught up .........

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:59 pm
by calros
the music credits for the film! I am suspecting that David Wu was actually the music editor, and not the composer ala Lowell Lo and Lo Tai Yau? It sure doesn't look like a film score credit to me...Wink


"Music editors" are credited as "Music composers" in our Db.

Remember that the "music composer" credit is very relative in Hong Kong. Sometimes, the music composers only re-use original soundtracks from other movies, even from USA or Europe.

Frankie Chan or Wang Fu Ling were good examples of that.

David Wu is a very famous example of editor "converted" in composer, but there are very much people: Norman Wong, Tang Siu Lam...

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:19 am
by Mike Thomason
***edited for content***

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:49 am
by STSH
White Dragon wrote:
STSH wrote:I was checking back through this forum yesterday, and I noticed that one of my very first postings (Dec 1999) was about this very same subject. Sure took you a while, guys, but finally caught up .........


Guess I wasn't a member of the forum then? That and the fact that I simply don't have the time to go trawling through every miniscule aspect of the forum before I post something to see if it's already been said or not. But thanks for yet another reaffirmation of your superiority over the rest of us. Since you're an "editor" and already knew of the error back in 1999, maybe you could have simply removed it then when it was identified...instead of big-noting yourself six years later when another contributor verified the mistake when they picked it up? Just a thought... :roll:


Tsk tsk. Always assuming the worst..........
All I did was ask if anyone else could confirm the sighting.
And I'll leave it to others to big-note.

Now, can anyone confirm Aaron Kwok in this movie, or is it safe to delete ?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:00 am
by Mike Thomason
STSH wrote:Tsk tsk. Always assuming the worst..........
All I did was ask if anyone else could confirm the sighting.
And I'll leave it to others to big-note.

Now, can anyone confirm Aaron Kwok in this movie, or is it safe to delete ?


Not a prob -- when I read your reply it just smacked of a "told you so" vibe when I read it, that's all. Living proof that the written word is always open to interpretation, and not always of the positive variety.

Well...though we mustn't take just two people's word for it, my memory of the film is pretty fresh (as I revisited it on Sunday 13th November; two days ago). Just like circa 1992, when I first saw the film, and again aroud '01 when I bought the Megastar DVD, I still haven't seen Aaron Kwok anywhere in it. Not even anyone who resembles him for such a mistake to be made (though, I guess he could have been walking past in the background of a crowd scene on the way to a gig...); if he really does appear in the film can someone please post a screen grab? I'd truly kick myself for missing him three time in thirteen years...:(