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Race & Rosanne "2R" Twins ??

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:04 pm
by heinz Germany
Uploaded 3 Pics of them - Cant tell who is who
Wanted to link the two - don't know yet how is the best way....(yet)
or create them together ??
Rosanne Wong Yuen Kwan 黃婉君 und Race Wong Wan Pei 黃婉佩
http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng
http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:42 am
by calros
Did you add the alias?

Bad idea. The alias must be "2R" or "2 R"-

If you put "1/2 Part of" as alias, nobody will find them if they search them as 2R.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:16 am
by heinz Germany
Carlos I know that but didn't find a place to leave the information. That's why I posted it too avoid troubles in future...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:32 am
by heinz Germany
Another question - I added both actress names in the picture description but the second (sister's name) are not shown as link below the picture...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:24 am
by calros
Fixed aliases. Now if anybody does not remember the name of these actresses, but knows they are called 2R, he can find them as 2R.

The names of the people do not appear in the picture as link when you see them in the Actor Display.

These names only appear in the Film Display.

But as these photos are not from any movie, the photos have no name link.

Example: Who is person with Tze Miu in this photo?
http://hkmdb.com/db/people/images.mhtml ... ay_set=eng

His name does not appear here, only the name of the movie. But if you click on the name of the movie, and go to "Images", you will see again the photo with the names of BOTH actors (Tze Miu and an actor called Jet Li)

You cannot do that with the 2R photos because these photos are not from any movie.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:46 am
by heinz Germany
Thank You Carlos - You are the best (if You were the last) -) :P

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:55 pm
by Brian Thibodeau
Would this ultimately need to be done for the various pop band actors, like Cookies (actually, searching this does bring up one name, at least), Boyz, Twins, etc.?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:17 pm
by dleedlee
You can also a photo description that's not a hot link if you add it to the first box under Edit, Images.

For instance this photo always displays the name/title when click on the image:
http://hkmdb.com/db/people/image_detail ... ay_set=eng
or
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng
The film and actors are ID'd but not hot linked since I felt there were a suitable number of representative portrait images under the actor's listing from the same film.

And a better example below, where I added no related links but just captioned the image.
http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:19 pm
by calros
Brian Thibodeau wrote:Would this ultimately need to be done for the various pop band actors, like Cookies (actually, searching this does bring up one name, at least), Boyz, Twins, etc.?


Some time ago I did The Wynners...

Fixed the Cookies. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:22 pm
by Brian Thibodeau
I suppose it's not a bad idea, really, since it gives visitors one nice way to find info on the actors with musical ties to bands, particularly if they're maybe more familiar with the band name than any of its individual members, or if the entire band appeared in films, which was not uncommon. I think you also included Sam Hui's band The Lotus some time ago in a couple listings. Can't hurt!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:48 pm
by bkasten
dleedlee wrote:http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng
The film and actors are ID'd but not hot linked since I felt there were a suitable number of representative portrait images under the actor's listing from the same film.


I understand your concern and rationale about these image display issues, but I want to re-emphasize very strongly that the purpose of putting the attribute on the image is so that the database knows the image's content. Without the attribute, it's not known. Remember that we can always change what is displayed, but we cannot necessarily remember what a particular image's attributes are...

I very strongly urge everyone to put all movie and actor attributes on every image...because when we to periodic audits of the systems's images those lacking attributes could end up getting removed.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:52 pm
by bkasten
calros wrote:
Brian Thibodeau wrote:Would this ultimately need to be done for the various pop band actors, like Cookies (actually, searching this does bring up one name, at least), Boyz, Twins, etc.?

Some time ago I did The Wynners..
Fixed the Cookies. :wink:


The use of aliases like that was a great idea...but it would also be nice if we put some actual database functionality in for this. If anyone has more ideas on what sort of features that would entail, let me know...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:59 pm
by calros
guilao wrote:I very strongly urge everyone to put all movie and actor attributes on every image...because when we to periodic audits of the systems's images those lacking attributes could end up getting removed.
Please do not do it... some images are from stunts, cars running, scerenies, etc., which are very useful to give an idea of the "content" of the movie...

Also, sometimes we cannot identify the actor of a movie, but maybe later we could identify him...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:04 pm
by heinz Germany
Then All my Glamour actress pics which are not movie related will be lost?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:01 pm
by bkasten
calros wrote:
guilao wrote:I very strongly urge everyone to put all movie and actor attributes on every image...because when we to periodic audits of the systems's images those lacking attributes could end up getting removed.
Please do not do it... some images are from stunts, cars running, scerenies, etc., which are very useful to give an idea of the "content" of the movie...


Well, in that case, there should at least be a movie attribute.

calros wrote:Also, sometimes we cannot identify the actor of a movie, but maybe later we could identify him...


Hmm, maybe we should have an "unknown actor" placeholder for portrait images like this?

In any case, we will discover how much of this is an actual problem when we do a system wide image audit (and purge).

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:01 pm
by bkasten
heinz Germany wrote:Then All my Glamour actress pics which are not movie related will be lost?


Not a chance... :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:09 pm
by dleedlee
guilao wrote:
dleedlee wrote:http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng
The film and actors are ID'd but not hot linked since I felt there were a suitable number of representative portrait images under the actor's listing from the same film.


I understand your concern and rationale about these image display issues, but I want to re-emphasize very strongly that the purpose of putting the attribute on the image is so that the database knows the image's content. Without the attribute, it's not known. Remember that we can always change what is displayed, but we cannot necessarily remember what a particular image's attributes are...

I very strongly urge everyone to put all movie and actor attributes on every image...because when we to periodic audits of the systems's images those lacking attributes could end up getting removed.


Hmm, I need a point of clarification. Do you mean that in my example I cited above is NOT attributed? It has a Description but no Actor related link, likewise I have images under Actor's name w/Description but no movie title link. I thought any one of the three: description, title or actor link sufficed? :x

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:22 pm
by bkasten
dleedlee wrote:Hmm, I need a point of clarification. Do you mean that in my example I cited above is NOT attributed? It has a Description but no Actor related link, likewise I have images under Actor's name w/Description but no movie title link. I thought any one of the three: description, title or actor link sufficed? :x


If it's a picture of two actors in a particular movie, then there should be actor and movie attributes. Descriptions are nice, but are somewhat optional. It's especially nice for pointing out who is whom in the image, as the system does not discriminate left-to-right.

Think of the actor and movie attributes as being what the database knows about the image...and the more it knows, the more creatively we can use them (for instance in the displaying of all actor's images over a particular range of years, etc.).

Of course, as calros points out, we have images where we know the movie, but the actor may be unknown, and we have many images of actors not associated with any movie.

Don't worry too much about this, Dennis. It's very clear what all of your images are. As such, if we want to retroactively attribute them, we will always have that option.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:37 am
by dleedlee
Okay, I think I got it now. Thanks. :lol: