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All Men Are Brothers Crew and unknown Actors

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:31 pm
by heinz Germany
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This Identified Heroes have Their Roles Names missing

Lee Wai Hoi and Chang Wing Gaai

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Wai Gong Sang

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The Following Actors I'd like to change
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The Following Actors I'd like to know their names - Michael ?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:41 pm
by calros
Added assist. dir., phot., mus., ed., art dir., costumes and your changes.

Sorry I cannot help you with the unidentified photos, and I am afraid neither Mr. Kistner...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:12 pm
by heinz Germany
thank You Carlos but I bet He sure knows some !!! Count on You Michael

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:07 am
by heinz Germany
Carlos Did You forget to translate the Hero's Names of the 3 last actors in the credits ?
Wai Gong Sang ... [cameo] Young hero
Chang Wing Gaai ... killed hero
Lee Wai Hoi ... killed hero

That's is why I made screenshots of those Names

or mayvbe too difficult ?? (Sorry) just wonna know if it's useless to make those 2 captures or not ... Thank You anyhow

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:21 pm
by calros
Almost nobody speaks chinese here, neither do I. Your roles' screenshots (they were also in WebPAC) say:

Wai Gong Sang plays "活閻羅阮小七" Babelfish cannot translate his nickname. Is one of the lengendary three Yuen brothers, Ruan Xiao Qi. http://www.yutopian.com/history/liangsh ... iaoqi.html

Lee Wai Hoi plays "兩頭蛇解珍" = 'Two-Headed Snake' Xie Chen

Chang Wing Gaai plays "雙尾蠍解寶" = 'Double Tail Scorpion' Xie Pao

I think they are too strange roles... what does think your wife? I she agrees, I will change them.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:37 pm
by heinz Germany
Sorry sadly she has no interest in that stuff and never read the book too
I must admit she won't be helpfull

Or call Wai Gong Sang _ Hero sitting near Ruan Xiao Wu ??
and the other two Hero fall from Fortress wall ??

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:38 pm
by bkasten
I have a bunch of items for my resident expert to check. I'll get back on this (and several others previously mentioned).

calros wrote:Almost nobody speaks chinese here, neither do I.


calros, actually a lot of people here speak Chinese, including myself (mandarin). However few people that speak Chinese actually participate here in the forum.

Reading/writing Chinese (and doing it well), however, is an entirely different matter...as any student of Chinese will quickly point out.

I am certainly impressed with your ability, effort, and patience in looking up characters. Looking up Chinese characters (esp. obscure ones) in a dictionary is frequently a challenge even for literate Chinese adults.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:45 pm
by heinz Germany
Carlos is my hero - one who can't speak but read and write (which is very hard to learn) I can speak but hardly read (should practice more)

The Screenshots are in Webpac ?? Or did I missunderstood ??
Are there any pictures in Webpac too ??

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:07 pm
by calros
Sorry! My english is not very good and sometimes I do not explain correctly...

WebPAC is only a database. No Images.

In this case (and a very strange case, because Shaw Bros. movies are rarely listed with all crew and roles) the credited cast is complete:

姜大 (飾浪子燕青), 狄龍 (飾行者武松), 陳觀泰 (飾九紋龍史進), 李修賢 (飾浪裏白條張順), 陳惠敏 (飾雙鎗將董平), 鍾玲玲 (飾李師師), 于楓 (飾母夜孫二娘), 何莉莉 (飾一丈青扈三娘), 岳華 (飾豹子頭林), 丹波哲郎 (飾玉麒麟盧俊), 王鍾 (飾拼命三郎石秀), 陳沃夫 (飾金槍手徐), 谷 (飾及時雨宋江), 金 (飾智多星吳用), 田青 (飾偽太子方天定), 朱牧 (飾偽帝方臘), 樊梅生 (飾黑旋風李逵), 王光裕 (飾菜園子張青), 張揚 (飾道君皇帝), 劉丹 (飾插翅虎雷橫), 佟林 (飾偽元帥鄧元覺), 吳池欽 (飾病關索楊雄), 楊斯 (飾偽護國大將軍司行方), 利榕傑 (飾立地太歲阮小二), 韋港生 (飾活閻羅阮小七), 唐炎燦 (飾短命二郎阮小玉), 劉剛 (飾偽鎮國大將軍厲天潤), 何漢洲 (飾船火兒張橫), 梁尚雲 (飾赤髮鬼劉唐), 雷龍 (飾霹靂火秦明), 邱明, 李維開 (飾兩頭蛇解珍), 曾永佳 (飾雙尾蠍解寶), 陳鳳鎮 (飾偽南離大將軍石寶), 秦沛 (飾小李廣花榮), 午馬, 鄭雷 (飾矮腳虎王英), 彭鵬 (飾花和尚魯智深), 李恒 (即李恆) (飾神行太保戴宗), 羅樂林 (飾黃門), 王清 (飾呂師囊), 羅威 (飾美髯公朱仝), 胡威 (飾鐵臂膞蔡福), 楊澤霖 (飾一枝花蔡慶).

Wai Gong Sang plays Ruan Xiao Qi, but like the rest of the roles this character has a nickname I cannot translate. Anyway, added.

The other 2 characters had a nickname sooooo strange so I wanted to hear the opinion of a chinese speaker... but for the moment I added them, too.

I do not know how to search chinese characters in a dictionary. For me, chinese characters are only drawings. When I want to search a symbol I use a JAPANESE site which helps me to find them "by radicals" (that is, for a part of a symbol).

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/cgi-bin/c ... wwwjdic?1R

As you may know, not all the japanese characters are exactly as the chinese ones, so sometimes I have problems... If anyone knows another better site...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:01 pm
by bkasten
calros wrote:I do not know how to search chinese characters in a dictionary.

http://www.mandarintools.com/chardict_u8.html


You search characters in a Chinese dictionary by using a radical table in pretty much the same fashion you do with an online table.


calros wrote:When I want to search a symbol I use a JAPANESE site which helps me to find them "by radicals" (that is, for a part of a symbol).
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/cgi-bin/c ... wwwjdic?1R


:shock:

It's a bit more fiddly, but you might want to try this one:
http://www.mandarintools.com/chardict_u8.html

Also, the radical table in NJStar is really quite nice:
http://www.njstar.net/njstar/chinese/

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:19 pm
by calros
Wow! As always, you have been very helpful, Mr. Guilao!!!! Thaaaaaanks!!! :D

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:19 am
by Michael Kistner
Unknown actors:
image 1 is in many, many movies, but I don't know his name
image 2: left is Lau Jun Fai as fisherman
image 4 is Chui Fat
image 6 and 7 is Chow Kong as soldier

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:04 pm
by MrBooth
If you're using Firefox there's a few extensions for translating Japanese/Chinese characters...

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/s ... =Languages

Dunno if they're any use!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:58 pm
by heinz Germany
hello Michael - Nice to meet You

Lau Jun Fai I could not tell because all his pictures In HKMDB show him mature with moustache which looks different - as far as I remember he played one of David Chiang's brothers in Dracula and the 7 Golden Vampires - isn't it? (There is not role name in his credit)

So somebody like to add the picture Nr.5 to Chow Kong ?

I am prettysure Picture Nr. 1 and 3 (and 8 and 9 left not sure show the same actor)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:19 pm
by calros
Thanks Mr. Booth, I use Mozilla, I will try it. :D

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:50 am
by Michael Kistner
Yes, Lau Jun Fai plays one of David Chiang's brothers in "Dracula". I identified him 2, 3 years ago thanks to "Butterfly Murderers" (early scene), "Come from China" (big role) and "Stars and Roses".

Picture Nr. 1, 3 and 9 left show the same actor. I have a list with all the movies I've seen him and that are over 50! Two of his larger roles he has in "Profile in Anger" (violent death scene) and "Dirty Kung Fu".