Data addition: FALLEN PETALS

by **ciakmull** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:21 pm

http://www.hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?id=4854&display_set=eng

Website · by **calros** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:34 pm

Good news and bad news.

First the good ones: Thanks to you we have the first entry of Peter Pan's favourite photographer in our Database, Hung Ching Yun (Taiwan, 1929). I'm satisfied, because, at least, we have one credit.

(Now if you find the rest, better for us).

Now the bad ones: the "fallen petals" of the photos don't let me see well all the credits, so I was only able to add the editor. I did not find the music, I not even know if he is credited in that photos :cry:

by **dleedlee** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:18 pm

This might be related to the music, not positive:
Title: 落花時節
Description: 2 頁散頁 : 黑白單面 ; 22 x 17 公分.
Credits: 作曲, 胡文森 ; 作詞, 胡文森 ; 主唱, 黃少英 ; 領導, 趙威林 ; 指揮, 譚伯葉 ; 伴奏, 歌聲音樂團.

The movie looks interesting, just from those screen shots.

by **ciakmull** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:42 pm

I can read this:

Art Director:
Chow Chi Leung
鄒志良

dleedlee: The movie looks interesting, just from those screen shots.

It's a touching melodrama, a very good one.

by **dleedlee** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:59 pm

ciakmull, the reason I'm not sure about those credits is that it seems to describe something other than the film, perhaps the score or soundtrack. I found a separate listing for the film but it was as sparse. See below:

標題: 落花時節
出品/出版: 台灣.
詳情: 有聲.
演出者: 柯俊雄, 張美瑤.

Re: Fallen Petals, I love melodramas. I haven't been paying much attention to the Shaw releases lately but I'm glad you pointed that one out.

by **ciakmull** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:19 pm

I read the art director name directly from the film, I'm watching again the initial credits to find more credits. I cannot read chinese, I cannot read a single character of the credits you posted... :oops:

I'm a big fan of melodrama too. My fave Shaw until now is Law Chun's Torrents of Desire, very original, elegant, with a great attention to characters. But also Cathay's Splendour of Youth is really interesting, dark and fascinating. Lately I'm watching a lot of films of this genre and I'm discovering a new world... I like very much Chor Yuen (Winter Love is absolutely a masterpiece; Tear-Laden Rose too), Chun Kim, Tao Qin and japanese director Inoue Umetsugu. I see that you're an old cantonese movies expert: any good suggestion? I'm reading your hkmdb reviews and often I buy vcd following your steps... :wink:

by **ciakmull** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:45 pm

Sound Recorder: Wang Yung Hua (Wang Yung-Hua)

I found several french sites that credit him as sound engineer of Come Drink with Me, Killer Clans, Intimate Confessions of a Chinese Courtesan, The Mighty Peking Man, Black Magic, One-Armed Swordsman and Jade Tiger. He won also a Golden Horse award as sound recorder for 5 Shaolin Masters.

by **dleedlee** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:56 pm

ciakmull wrote:I read the art director name directly from the film, I'm watching again the initial credits to find more credits. I cannot read chinese, I cannot read a single character of the credits you posted...

I'm a big fan of melodrama too. My fave Shaw until now is Law Chun's Torrents of Desire, very original, elegant, with a great attention to characters. But also Cathay's Splendour of Youth is really interesting, dark and fascinating. Lately I'm watching a lot of films of this genre and I'm discovering a new world... I like very much Chor Yuen (Winter Love is absolutely a masterpiece; Tear-Laden Rose too), Chun Kim, Tao Qin and japanese director Inoue Umetsugu. I see that you're an old cantonese movies expert: any good suggestion? I'm reading your hkmdb reviews and often I buy vcd following your steps...

Heh, neither can I, but BabelFish helps me a lot!

Thank you for the recommendations and the compliment/encouragement.
If you have not seen it yet, let me again highly suggest the Family/Spring/Autumn trilogy. I cannot recommend it enough. (However, no subs and difficult for to follow.) After that, I would pick any of the Union Film Enterprise films available. That's my strategy and no disappointments yet.
I can't remember if it was you that suggested So Siu Siu. Simply gorgeous film and very good story. I am trying to work up a write up but I am falling behind. It is subbed in English, too. As mentioned in the Subtitle thread, very few oldies available. Rumor elsewhere that Panorama has a preorder for another Cathay film, not clear if it has subs or not though. Title is Devotion.

re: Tear-Laden Rose, I cannot locate it. did you see it at Udine?
Torrents of Spring - I haven't seen it, will have to had to list.
Splendor of Youth - creepy, huh?

Website · by **calros** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:33 pm

(excuse my intromision: Mr. Dleedlee I not understand your doubts - your 2nd chinese post correct - thanks for data - added lyricist as composer - maybe music of film are songs?...this my only doubt - thanks for help Mr. Ciakmull - added Chow, but not Wang because not exist sound recorder in HKMDb - sorry again, you can continue...)

by **dleedlee** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:41 pm

calros wrote:(excuse my intromision: Mr. Dleedlee I not understand your doubts - your 2nd chinese post correct - thanks for data - added lyricist as composer - maybe music of film are songs?...this my only doubt - thanks for help Mr. Ciakmull - added Chow, but not Wang because not exist sound recorder in HKMDb - sorry again, you can continue...)

I wasn't sure about the first set of credits I listed. Not sure exactly what it was for. The 2nd is for the film, just limited info, but the first seemed related to the music but not clear to me.

Website · by **calros** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:13 pm

Oh!

I have more doubts now. Maybe that first post is the musical partiture of "Fallen Petals", but that does not mean compulsorily of the film. It can be of one vinyl with the same title... so for the moment I will remove that lyricist. Where did you get that first post?

by **dleedlee** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:27 pm

Same place as the second, the hkfa online site. That's why I'm not sure, it's not the film entry but seems related. Both turned up searching for the Fallen Petals title. So I provided as secondary source, if you can tie back to credits from the screen captures, it can be considered.

by **ciakmull** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:19 pm

I can't remember if it was you that suggested So Siu Siu. Simply gorgeous film and very good story.

I've the Mei Ah vcd but I didn't see it yet.

Rumor elsewhere that Panorama has a preorder for another Cathay film, not clear if it has subs or not though. Title is Devotion.

I'm waiting the day they will continue to release the Cathay classics... I hope that day will come asap.

re: Tear-Laden Rose, I cannot locate it. did you see it at Udine?

Yes. I don't think it has been released yet on vcd. This year Udine's Chor Yuen retrospective has been a wonderful gift... I've here The Prodigal in vhs still to see. I bought in vcd The Revived Rose just for the title, do you know if it's in some way linked with Tear-Laden Rose?

Torrents of Spring - I haven't seen it, will have to had to list.

I never noticed the talent of Law Chun before seeing that movie. Now I'm after all his movies...

Let me again highly suggest the Family/Spring/Autumn trilogy

I hope it will return soon in stock on YesAsia, it's at the top of my wishlist!

Splendor of Youth - creepy, huh?

A great surprise. Cheung Ying is outstanding.

Website · by **calros** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:49 pm

Mr. Dleedle wrote

if you can tie back to credits from the screen captures, it can be considered.

Sorry... I cannot tie them... maybe Mr. Ciakmull "lost" one of the photos? Or there is not music in that film?

No... It's impossible a melodrama without the "melo"...

by **dleedlee** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:42 pm

(I'm going to try and switch this over to the Movies forum, since we've gone so far astray off topic from Fallen Petals.

http://www.hkmdb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=39993#39993

by **ciakmull** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:23 pm

Carlos: Sorry... I cannot tie them... maybe Mr. Ciakmull "lost" one of the photos? Or there is not music in that film?

I'm sorry but the screenshots are complete. And the film score is an important factor in the movie: sweet, touching, melancholic, a wonderful soundtrack... it's a pity we cannot credit anyone for the moment!

Data addition: FALLEN PETALS

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