Jackie Chan

[MrBooth]

just reminded by Mike's post... shouldn't Jackie Chan really be "Jackie Chan Sing Lung"? Apart from anything else, it would be something to search for that doesn't match "Jackie Chan's Stuntmen Association" :p (I always end up using Chan Kong Sang when I'm adding him to image attributes)

http://hkmdb.com/db/people/view.mhtml?id=3894&display_set=eng

3 "yes" votes and an absence of "no" and I'll change him

[magic-8]

No, Sing Loong is his complete stage name. Chan's his real name. He doesn't mix the two and neither should we. Chinese folk just call him Sing Loong--never Jackie Chan.

[bkasten]

I agree. English speakers call him Jackie Chan and Chinese call him Sing Lung (Cheng Long). JC even calls himself Sing Lung (Cheng Long). This is a case where we should simply have one name on the English side and another altogether for the Chinese...

[MrBooth]

I guess since there's no overlap between "Jackie Chan" and "Sing Lung", unlike e.g. Sammo Hung Kam-Bo, that makes sense.

I guess I'll just get used to calling him Chan Kong Sang

Incidentally, somebody's recently added a new alias - "Real Name = Fang Shi Long"... first time I've heard this - always heard it told as 1. born Chan Kong Sang, 2. adopted a Yuen name at the opera school, 3. became Jackie Chan Sing Lung [;)] for his professional career...

[dleedlee]

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Incidentally, somebody's recently added a new alias - "Real Name = Fang Shi Long"... first time I've heard this - always heard it told as 1. born Chan Kong Sang, 2. adopted a Yuen name at the opera school, 3. became Jackie Chan Sing Lung [;)] for his professional career...

Maybe confusing his father's real name from the Traces of Dragon documentary by Mabel Cheung:

"The film, which was directed by Mabel Cheung and Alex Law, documents the intensely personal background of international superstar Jackie Chan, who discovered that his family wasn’t exactly who he had always believed they were.

Jackie always knew his father as Chen Jiping, but recently Chen revealed the secret he had been keeping from his son for the last forty-something years; that he was born Feng Daolong and has two older sons by a former wife in China. His mother Lee-lee also revealed to her son that she has two step-sisters as well on the Mainland from her previous marriage.....

The true story that Jackie never knew, was that Fang had worked as a spy for the Chiang Kai-shek’s KMT during the 1930’s and 1940’s. After surviving two assassination attempts, and finding most of his family dead after the Sino-Japanese War of 1937, eventually settled down and had two sons. But when his wife passed away in 1947, Fang left his sons behind to flee from the Communists.

It was then in Shanghai that Fang met Lee-lee, who already had two daughters, and her own tumultuous life story. The two married and soon little Jackie was born.
"

http://www.asiaarts.ucla.edu/041103/fil ... films.html

"With Jackie's father Chi-Long as the central character we discover that Chan is not the family name, Jackie has brothers and sisters in China that he had never met and his mother was a gangster."
http://www.highangle.co.uk/reviews/tracesofadragon.html

[Brian Thibodeau]

Memory doesn't serve well here, so don't quote me, but Chan may have mentioned the Fang name in his autobiography "I Am Jackie Chan." Something about a name change on the part of his father or some such? Wish I could remember. I might try to look it up later if someone hasn't already corrected me here by then...

EDIT: Oops! Looks like Dennis saved me the work!

[bkasten]

I have been trying to find that film "Traces of a Dragon" for the past year with no success...Do you actually have it, Dennis?

[MrBooth]

I see Sounds like there's a film in there somewhere

[dleedlee]

I have been trying to find that film "Traces of a Dragon" for the past year with no success...Do you actually have it, Dennis?

No, but it's available at amazon.de with English subs. I missed a one-time theatrical screening here last fall.

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B ... 38-4846961[/url]

[STSH]

I have been trying to find that film "Traces of a Dragon" for the past year with no success...Do you actually have it, Dennis?

No, but it's available at amazon.de with English subs. I missed a one-time theatrical screening here last fall.

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B ... 38-4846961[/url]

Pretty sure it's the same movie. It screened on TV (SBS) here a few months ago, and I believe it was a repeat.

And yes, it interviewed Chan's real siblings and gave his "proper" name, which was the Fang name mentioned. I added the update, and included a link for any who wanted to check further.

The previous entry was incorrect. "Chan Kong Sang" was not Jackie's birth name, but his childhood name.