Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original language

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Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original language

Postby Chen Hung Lieh » Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:43 pm

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

Original language is certainly not Mandarin, it's in fact Taiwan Dialect/Min Nan, don't know how to call the specific dialect 100% correctly, according backcover it's just "Taiwanese ??" (Taiwan Film Institute DVD release).
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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby Chen Hung Lieh » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:06 am

Although I have no problem with distinguishing Cantonese, Mandarin and Taiwanese, I still can't decide if I should call Taiwanese dialact/language just "Taiwanese", "Min Man/Southern Min" or "Hokkien" or something different. I have heard there are more than just one Taiwanese dialects, and if true, I would not be able to differentiate them.

I found out that HKMDB describes "Taiwan Min Nan Yu" ????? as "Hokkien" in Joseph Kuo's early Taiwanese dialect movies. So I would suggest we stick with "Hokkien" for the Phoenix Sisters too.
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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby bkasten » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:32 pm

This is a rather complicated subject. I am investigating, and will add some updates soon.

I am glad you brought this matter up.
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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby bkasten » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:07 pm

Taiwanese/????? (also Taiwanese Hokkien) and Hakka/???, in addition to Mandarin, will be the languages I have allocated for Taiwan. I do not want to get into subdialects unless it becomes necessary or someone can demonstrate that such distinctions become necessary.
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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby heinz Germany » Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:33 pm

Till now there are 474 films tagged with Hokkien, can You replace them with Taiwanese automaticly? (BTW: None Hakka yet).
As for "Amoy" and "Teochew" - there are numerous films with Amoy/Teochew language entry in Basic Info - how to find them??
Till now we have 16 X Amoy and 14 X Teochew... I suppose the real number is much bigger
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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby bkasten » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:39 pm

heinz Germany wrote:Till now there are 474 films tagged with Hokkien, can You replace them with Taiwanese automaticly? (BTW: None Hakka yet).
As for "Amoy" and "Teochew" - there are numerous films with Amoy/Teochew language entry in Basic Info - how to find them??
Till now we have 16 X Amoy and 14 X Teochew... I suppose the real number is much bigger


????? (Hokkien/Taiwanese) will stay the same.

I will look into Amoy/Teochew.
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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby heinz Germany » Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:48 am

Just found one example Amoy) be luck and changed the language (und left the entry)
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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby bkasten » Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:54 pm

Yes, Amoy is still a selectable language. Even though it is a Hokkien dialect we will keep it. What film are you referring to?

Again, I always want to move toward more detail, so if we need to add more languages, we will.
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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby heinz Germany » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:13 pm

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Re: Vengeance of the Phoenix Sisters (1968) Original languag

Postby bkasten » Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:49 pm

OK, thanks.
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