The Story of the Dragon changes

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The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby Michael Kistner » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:51 am

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/view.mhtml?i ... ay_set=eng

The HKMDB release date of Bruce Lee's Secret is wrong the film was released in Taiwan 3/11/1976 - not 1979. The main title is also wrong it should be the alias one ?????:

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng

I change it soon if no one objects.
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby Michael Kistner » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:06 am

One more thing 8) :

The correct English title is Bruce Lee's Secret:

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng

and

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng

The Story of the Dragon is the renamed title - I'll change the titles if no one objects.
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby leecoo » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:29 am

Hello.

https://lobo801091.pixnet.net/blog/post/270027974

This is a film advertisement of the Taiwanese newspaper.
Because in Taiwan, title is written from the right.

HKMDB the letters in the poster are ?? "?" ??.

"?" is a simplified character,
and the Chinese traditional type is "?".

Those meaning of the characters are "and".
In other words, winchun and Jeet Kune Do.

In Hong Kong, it's called ?????.
So, ????? and "Bruce Lee's Secret" are the alternate title in Taiwan.

I think the English title in Hong Kong "The Story of the Dragon" is correct. :D
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby bkasten » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:53 am

Hi leecoo. I haven't seen you post here in a very long time! Thanks for this.
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby leecoo » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:01 am

bkasten wrote:Hi leecoo. I haven't seen you post here in a very long time! Thanks for this.


I woke up today.
Thank you. :P
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby Michael Kistner » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:41 pm

Thanks for your input.

The HKFA lists the movie that way:

????? Bruce Lee's secret

https://mcms.lcsd.gov.hk/FAMS_ipac/ccli ... 7942515205
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby leecoo » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:06 pm

Michael Kistner wrote:Thanks for your input.

The HKFA lists the movie that way:

????? Bruce Lee's secret

https://mcms.lcsd.gov.hk/FAMS_ipac/ccli ... 7942515205


Hi,Michael Kistner.

Thanks a lot. :)
I have seen it in the past.
According to a book published by the HKFA in 2014, it says:

It seems that it was changed to ????? at the time of screening in Hong Kong.
The reason for the change is also described.

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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby Oliver Sodemann » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Hi there together,

and thanks for your discussion and important points.

The Chinese, in my understanding, says that the Lee family
would not allow "Jeet Kune Do" in the title, so it was changed.
(Quite understandable, as Ho Tsung-Tao or anyone else after
Bruce Lee could perform his style properly :-)

So I think, the change of the entry to "Bruce Lee's Secret"
should be obvious then?

Besides I would have pointed out the simple physical proof
with the images uploaded: this lobby was sticked over with
"Story Of The Dragon" and also the Chinese title:

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng

being in a row with this un-over-sticked lobby card with the same basis design

http://hkmdb.com/db/movies/image_detail ... ay_set=eng

... and the poster here was reprinted, covering its former title
with some kind of repetetious background segment if you watch closely.

So, to me, it is obvious, "Bruce Lee's Secret" was there in the first place.

If the definition for a title as a main entry is with which title a movie started
in the cinemas in Hong Kong (this movie being nevertheless a Taiwan movie,
as Lan Tien Hung registered his company in Hong Kong only) ... then "Story
Of The Dragon" would be the right entry, although the original title wasn't
intended that way and posters already printed. Also, maybe it was shown
as "Bruce Lee's Secret" in Hong Kong first and some days, so that the Lee family
got knowledge of that and complained. Officially there is only a release date
source of "Story Of The Dragon" shown in Hong Kong.
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby Oliver Sodemann » Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:10 pm

Some addition here that friend Toby Russell mailed me right now:

"? - Jeet ( Jié) -Intercepting or Cut
? -Jie - Quick/ Rapid

So its just a play on word sounds but meaning is different."
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby leecoo » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:45 pm

Hello,everyone.

Great.
I'm surprised at the high level of knowledge of member.

My idea is follows.

????? is the title in Taiwan.
????? is the title in Hong Kong.
It's a very simple story.

In the first place, it's a system or site called HKMDB.That's it.

I'm new face to this forum ,
so, I thought that the titles used in Hong Kong were the main titles.

In this forum ,Is that the priority when it is first released in Taiwan?
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby bkasten » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:57 am

Welcome our friend from Japan, leecoo. He has been around as a HKMDB user for a long time, but is now joining as an editor.


leecoo - to clarify, yes we try to cover everything now from Taiwan and China, in addition to HK. We have more than 5000 movies from Taiwan now. The year we put on films is the year it is first released, even if it is not HK.
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Re: The Story of the Dragon changes

Postby leecoo » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:53 am

bkasten- Thank you so much for your introduction and reply. I understand the situation.

Hello Everyone, I'm not good at expressing in English, but I would appreciate your guidance. I'm neither a SAMURI nor a NINJA. But I like the movie! :D
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